| נשלח ב-6/12/2005 15:20 |
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Saddam Hussien and Blogging
Blogs are a dictatorship, where the Blog owner dictates the subject to be discussed, decides when it's time to go on (by putting up a few more posts the old ones get lost into oblivion never to be resurrected other than by the Blog God himself) Oh and most importantly the Dictator has the only say on the existence or demise of the blog and/or its commentators. True to dictator form some bloggers have actually erased their entire blog, others have 'only' erased the 'peoples' comments, but left their own posts intact, how becoming.
(Actually, it's not about 'some' bloggers erasing their blog, according to the bloggers themselves (J bloggers, that is) the average lifespan of a blog is 12 months. Where after the 12 months the Blog dictator just conveniently annihilates the blog along with all the hard work by the commentators
I have no gripes with bloggers themselves, they are after all entitled to set up a pulpit where to rant and rave or maybe sprout forth words of enlightenment, it's their God given right. [although erasing everything is a different story]
What I don't understand is the commenters, why would you be willing to participate in such an undemocratic process? Why not put a little effort in having all the commentators come to a Free Society?
Does it show us that people (people as liberal as they come, mind you) are by nature followers?
Or is it that it has not been realized fully the extent of the commentators being completely dependent on the whims of the blog eldest?
Now in a time where democracy is spreading its wings into heretofore uncharted territory, how's about we internet users or more specifically blog commentators and even blog writers give a vote of confidence for democracy and write only (or at least mainly) in democratic forums.
Like the Iraqis last year, lets vote with our fingers.
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| נשלח ב-7/12/2005 07:05 |
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Ani,
Forums and blogs are always moderated if they want to be successful. Just imagine someone opening silly threads here, won't you (or whomever) delete it without hesitation?
The difference between blogs and forums is that blogs depend on its owner to thrive. Without the daily/weekly/periodically posts there are no comments, and if the topic is not controversial or worse, uninteresting the blog will be just another boring personal diary. Also, many bloggers stupidly tend to screen comments that are not in harmony with their own agenda. Stupidly, for it renders such a blog irrelevant and highly uninteresting. When a blogger stops blogging either because the issue is no longer relevant, he changed views, or had enough the blog dies. You cannot continue a debate when the main reason to its existence is mute.
Forums to the contrary are not dependant on a singular person, nor does a thriving discussion-board keep it one-sided. When the owner or moderator wants out the password can be easily transferred to a successor, at times without anyone noticing it.
And lets not forget, the definition of a 'blog' is a person's public diary, whereas a forum is a discussion-group.
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| נשלח ב-7/12/2005 11:03 |
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Hasid,
Your clear definitions have strengthened Ani's claim, by stressing the nature of blogs. As you said, blogs are mainly a one person band which doesn't provide the evolutionary process that forums do. But this is no reason for the blogger not to respect the commentators who invested mind and time, whom he "used". He should at least advertise that any commentator wishing to download parts of the discussions, should have the possibility to do so.
In the hebrew Atzor, we make sure that everything is saved, so even if the so-callled Charediban, forces any of the managers to erase [Being forbid], the material will not be lost for whomever has a moral right to it.
תוקן על ידי - מנהלמשנה - 07/12/2005 14:18:59
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| נשלח ב-8/12/2005 06:05 |
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Veto,
We all agree that blogs are not forums, but I don't see why one would be upset when a blogger chooses to do what he deems right. Also, as much as a blogger enjoys seeing comments it is still the commenter who uses one's blog to create a lively debate, therefore both "use" each other.
I can't speak for everyone out there but if a participator would ask me where I stashed his comments I would definitely divulge the vaulted super-secret blogsite.
My question is, why is a blog not understood as a diary with no moral obligations? If one comments great, if a discussion ensures, even better, but it's still one's chronicle, even if one dramatizes his entries to get exposure and debates.
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| נשלח ב-8/12/2005 08:13 |
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Dearest Hasid,
It seems like I hit a raw nerve  Any secrets you're hiding or maybe it's about something you have 'hidden' 
Please understand that I hardly have an issue with blog writers. It is after all their own private little enterprise or kingdom if you will. My questions are much more directed to the blog commentors. To be sure, even them I would forgive if we are talking about the comments being less than 10-15 in all. But when it mushrooms into 200 or so comments then it tells us that the discussion has a life of its own and in that case that is exactly what should happen, they should get a life of their own and not be dependent on any single persons whims and fancies.
From the way you write I would 'assume' that if you would be a blogger and close shop you will allow for people to retrieve their old stuff . Don't ask how I'm so sure, it may be just a gut feeling or it may be more. 
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| נשלח ב-8/12/2005 18:40 |
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| נשלח ב-9/12/2005 06:35 |
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Ani the Great,
If writings are about explaining to others or, even worse, proving some points to others then yes it's hard work. But if writing is a flow of consciousness that comes from the a place where only your heart knows, then it's the biggest joy of all and the last thing to call it is work.
Please forgive me, for I truly don't mean to say that you are doing it any other way, on the contrary because you are doing it the right way it makes sense for all of us to be aware of what we are really doing.
Like Chasidus teaches us, we don't tell anyone anything (when the word anyone is used it is non discrimantory it means our own self as much as our beloved fellow being) we let our heart free and עס זאגט זיך אליינס
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| נשלח ב-11/12/2005 17:08 |
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Dear Lev,
So nice to read your stuff, it certainly is a stream of consciousness straight out of the heart. Thanks for joining, looking forward to many good heartfelt posts.
I understand what you said about writing not being work, it actually being a medium to bring out your inner thoughts so that it is sort of a meditation on paper. I like this idea a lot. I once heard that many great Hasidic masters who came up with deep insights weren't necessarily philosophising, they got their insight through practicing it. It seems like your idea of writing as meditation is of the same category. thanks for the idea.
Yet I still campaign against writing in blogs because just as writing can be a meditational experience so can rereading it. Actually once one writes in meditation then it is all the more important that he have access to the things he wrote so that he can bring himself back in the 'momment' by refreshing his old emotions.
תוקן על ידי - עני_בפתח - 11/12/2005 17:08:30
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