| נשלח ב-21/4/2005 01:48 |
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וער פארשטייט גיט צו מוזוק??
Who is your favorite musician, arranger, composer,singer, engineer, etc. and WHY?
Here are my opinions,, let's hear yours!
Musician:
That's a tough one lets say it can be broken down into two categories, rhythm, and brass. Rhythm: is a toughie but there is one musician that stands out , Yaron Gershovsky. His playing dominates the music. Even if in a quite way you can hear the ''Yaron signature'' there. There are other great pianists around for instatnce Yaron Gottfried, but his hands sound heavier than Gershovsky's you can really hear it in the fluidness of slow songs.
Brass: is much easier it has gotta be Avrum Felder from Israel. His performance in Mona3, the buzz, flight of the bumblebee was amazing. There is a runnerup in this category as well, Jim Hynes. His signature introduction to the song ''Someday'' is terrific but his control, range, and power does not come close to Felder.
Arranger:
Not easy again there are so many and everyone has great hits, Yisroel Lamm for all his great intros, Brass work, and string work. Moshe Laufer for his bringing out the melody. Mona Rosenblum for his creativity and newness. Ruvi for a very full sound and great ideas, Junior Laufer for his great work especially for using very few instruments to create a giant sound.
Composer:
That's also a tough one there are so many good ones out there, so we are going to have to break it down a little.
Older slow songs I can think of three: Moshe Goldman's Heegooleh. Yossi Green's Rochel Mivaka. And Carlbach Yizkiraim. Those are in my opinion timeless they are still great to listen to even today.
Older fast songs Also very tough but I think Shmuel Borger With Ani Mamin and Boroch Hagever.
Current fast songs, the belzer guys, for Simen Tov, Viyadee, Ki Atto, and Uvinee.
Current Hora, Yossi Green Daagah, Dido Bei, and Yirachmiel Begun L'mironon (before Ben Bag Bag )
Current slow, there are a lot but again one that stands out I don't remember who composed it but Efraim Mendelson sings it, Kayol Tarog.
Singer:
Who else MBD. Avrum Fried comes close, but not quite. Then of course theres Lipa, not a lot of singers can do what he can. I do not mean his ''shtick'' or his voice. There are very few singers that can write, and perform such complex harmony lines as lipa can do and no less on the first take in a studio. (happyjew what do you think?)
Engineer:
I don't kow maybe someone can help me, though JJ is a definite maybe!!
What do you think???
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| נשלח ב-12/2/2006 17:02 |
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anyone know where the clarinet intro (played by arkady) on L'eiloh I'leiloh was recorded? i think its the fourth song.
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| נשלח ב-12/2/2006 12:37 |
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well galkol now has pro tools. they hardly use there 2inch. and even in the same studio you hear a tremendous
difference.
I like pro tools, great for editing BBBUUUTTT.. for drums and bass, flutes, clarients, trombones (more than trumpets)
and strings i highly highly recomend (whenever you have an option) use 2 inch. The tape distorts and you get a
rougher harder fuller and BETTER sound. BTW gal kol.... wow the sound in the green room is amazing...
i've been to alot of studios and recorded on 2 inch at other places.. the sound there is just amaizing.
aperently for singing Ken's place is realy good but .... i don't sing
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| נשלח ב-10/2/2006 01:45 |
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happyjew, i dont think its fair to compare the difference between analog and digital by comparing two different studios!! like you mentioned, mic placement is a big issue there as well as different mics, preamps, compressor, etc. etc
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| נשלח ב-9/2/2006 19:42 |
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Thanks hydetalk for clarifying the name. That's what I meant United, I remembered some thing with U-n-i
Being that you brought up the analog - digital thing
In our Camp Shalva line all projects since Somachtee
the rhythm was
always recorded in Gal Kol on 2 inch analog
besides Idvorov which was recorded in no other place than United Studios by Ken Burgas
It does not say so in the US printed labels put on the Israely batch we managed to correct this info
Now take for instance the Drums
It was played by the same drummer if you want to compare the most possible
Idvorov and Shomrim
where Shomrim Drums where recorded on 2 inch Analog
it sounds totally different but remember that at Ken's place the drum kit, micing and room was different as well
But beleave me
the instant I got the raw tracks from Israel from Ken I was convinced that I COULD hear the difference
and shure enough we went back to analog
atleast for the drums it made a huge differents to me
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| נשלח ב-9/2/2006 01:44 |
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thanks for the info, hydetalk.
i think the debate of analog vs. digital should be discussed further as im sure alot of people have strong opinions on that subject (I know i do i just want to hear others first)
oh, and no apology needed as no offense was taken ( im sure the people from turkey are nice guys).
תוקן על ידי - muzakal - 09/02/2006 1:44:24
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| נשלח ב-8/2/2006 19:14 |
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oh about the turkish
i apologise i meant you sound like a turkish instrument
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תוקן על ידי - hyde_talk - 08/02/2006 19:16:28
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| נשלח ב-8/2/2006 19:11 |
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Ken spent a large part of his life at some of the worlds leading studios. He was always involved with the pros, and not
the pros that get decided on OLAM HANEGINA forum, i'm talking P R O F F E S I O N A L S.
You talking about over processed recording mixing etc.... i wont even start.....He has an amazing studio (so i hear) in
ramat gan.... it's called ZOHAR MELODY or something and happyjew, i think it's called the united studios of zohar
melody, he's not UNIVERSAL STUDIOS (yet) thats a good name for a studio but i doubt very much some one would
open another Universal studios (besides THE hollywood one). I think they don't have an in house engineer as such, the
use freelancers. The end of the day the guy has an end product.
The only down side though is that he does digital recording as apposed to 2inch (which will always be the favorite) it
just does not have the same qualities as analogue..
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| נשלח ב-8/2/2006 02:50 |
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do you know who does his mixes
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| נשלח ב-7/2/2006 16:32 |
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Yes he has his own studio in Isreal
It's called Universal somthing - I don't remember the exact name
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| נשלח ב-6/2/2006 14:35 |
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muzakal, i totaly agree about your singolda views. well said
Ken does know his stuff and arranges his style exceptionaly like a pro.
his compositions are great but.... d a r k.. thats just his style.
If you know the man... and what a lovely (but english) guy he is.... it's somehow difficult to see him conducting.... i mean
even counting in the musicians. He's there with the hot blooded israelis and he's this layed back english man.
BTW muzakal, welcome to the world of OLOM HANEGINA.... muzakal.....muzakal.... you sound turkish
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| נשלח ב-27/1/2006 18:29 |
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His song "Onu Bikoach" on the first album is, (in my
opinion) teriffic
as is "Good, Right & Reason - Yeedle"
very powerful songs I really like them.
Hey muzakal why don't you open a new thread on him?
תוקן על ידי - bflat - 27/01/2006 18:29:07
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| נשלח ב-26/1/2006 21:46 |
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D A R K but great
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| נשלח ב-26/1/2006 16:30 |
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OK, and since you brought it up,,, what are your thought on his arrangements?
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