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נשלח ב-8/9/2008 21:06 לינק ישיר 
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http://www.vosizneias.com/20125/2008/09/08/london-pub-to-become-bobov-shul

London - Locals Angry Over Sold Pub To Become Bobov Shul

09-08-2008 - 11:16 AM

 
London - There will soon be a new synagogue for Stamford Hill's Bobov community - The Swan pub in Clapton Common.

The building has been bought for around £1 million and will be turned into a synagogue and meeting rooms.

It is thought to be the first time a British pub has been used in this way.

Once the refurbishment is completed, it is estimated that 150 people will be able to use the complex at any one time for services or other activities.

The Bobovs hope that the building will be ready for use within ''several months''. They expect the majority of members to move from shuls in Lampard Grove and Egerton Road.

Rabbi Ephraim Padwa of the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations said he was ''overwhelmed'' by the purchase, adding that the new building would benefit the ''flourishing Bobov community''.

Community member Ruth Goldberg said: ''Everybody is pleased that the pub will be turned into a synagogue.

''This is the prime spot in the whole of Stamford Hill. It is a nice big building with two huge halls. There is a lot of potential but it is all subject to planning permission which we will submit.

''Everybody is looking for more space in the area, but it is not available.

''We have tried for a year to purchase the building. Because this is an Orthodox area, the pub's sales have been declining, so it is a good deal for everyone.''

She hoped the community would rally around to help raise the necessary funds.

Meanwhile, staff at The Swan said this week that they were unaware of the sale.

''We don't have many Jewish customers,'' a barmaid confided. ''But during the football season a few do come in.''

Some locals who have used the pub for years and are upset over the sale have set up a web site www.savetheswan.com to protest the sale




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נשלח ב-8/9/2008 21:21 לינק ישיר 

 

 

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/23190/Clapton+Common,+England:+Purchase+Of+Pub+By+Bobov+Elicits+Reactions+Seen+As+Anti-Semitic.html

Clapton Common, England: Purchase Of Pub By Bobov Elicits Reactions Seen As Anti-Semitic

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Filed under: General News — Y.W. Editor @ 10:15 am
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bobov.jpgThe recent purchase of The Swan, a pub in London by the Bobov community elicited a number of reactions from the gentile community, some of them seen as dangerously close to anti-Semitic. The Swan in Clapton Common, a residential community lying between Upper Clapton and Stamford Hill, had been struggling financially and was put up for sale by the owners of the building. Regular visitors at the bar were angered at the news that the Bobov community had offered £1 million to buy the pub, and vowed to stop the purchase.

Save the Swan, the campaign begun by residents of Clapton Common to halt the sale of the site, was meant to be an effort to preserve a location important to the community. Sasha Johnson, the spokeswoman for the group said, ''Stamford Hill is an area where everyone has lived side by side and there is very little friction between communities. No one wants the campaign to be seen as an attack on the Jewish community. It isn't. We simply want to keep our pub.''

However, some comments got nasty. A letter to the editor in one of the local papers claimed that the Jewish community has an agenda. It stated, ''It's the nature of the Jewish community to snap up any building that comes on the market, in and around its designated area, and [they don't care about] the feelings and concerns of residents. The Swan belongs to the people of Hackney, and is part of Hackney's history, but the Bobov Jewish community has no ''respect'' for that.''

A spokesman for Bobov said that the pub was slated to be sold regardless of Bobov's interest in it. He went so far as to offer a new lease to keep the building functioning as a pub, but reported that the leaseholder was not interested in the idea. The spokesman added, '' We don't want to cause any upset. Everyone lives peacefully side by side here and our neighbors are wonderful to us.''

Despite the efforts of the neighborhood campaign, Bobov succeeded in purchasing the building. They plan to convert it into a shul and meeting rooms. Once the refurbishments are completed, organizers estimate that 150 people will be able to use the complex at any one time. The building is expected to be ready for use within several months.




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נשלח ב-28/9/2008 19:24 לינק ישיר 

בקיצור ענק קענען זאגען קדיש אויף דעם בנין?



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נשלח ב-28/9/2008 19:56 לינק ישיר 

The protesters say that chasidi jews of Bobov Egerton Rd are behind the compaign to Save the Swan Pub and not to convert it in to a synagogue. That people are funding this fight




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נשלח ב-28/9/2008 22:02 לינק ישיר 

Absolute rubbish. You make a mistake and then try to blame us




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נשלח ב-28/9/2008 22:35 לינק ישיר 

ITS NO RUBBISH' 
  
EGERTON RD. DID CONTACT THIS GROUP AND IGNITED THIS FIRE

look how happy halbrstam writes




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נשלח ב-29/9/2008 17:36 לינק ישיר 

Happy maybe, because you guys only make trouble, but we do not need to resort to such methods, you can manage it all yourselves.

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נשלח ב-29/9/2008 19:04 לינק ישיר 
הרחיבו מקום אהלך

בורא עולם בקנין השלם זה הבנין

דער הערליכע בנין איז אפגעקויפט געווארן במקח גמור און עס איז ואין להשיב
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נשלח ב-6/10/2008 23:43 לינק ישיר 

וועלכע פון די צוויי צדיקים האבן געלייגט די האנט אויפן פאב?



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