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נשלח ב-31/8/2010 21:15 לינק ישיר 
Kiryas Joel Posts ‘Tznius’ Signs For Visitors

The following is from the Times Herald Record:

A large new sign greets visitors as they cross over Route 17 on Forest Avenue and enter a world where the skirts and shirt sleeves are always long, regardless of the season.

''Welcome to Kiryas Joel,'' it reads. ''In keeping with our traditions and religious customs, we kindly ask that you dress and behave in a modest way while visiting our community.''

The main congregation in this community of 22,000 Satmar Hasidim recently posted identical notices near two village entrances to ask outsiders to respect their ways while visiting, which includes ''covered necklines,'' ''appropriate language'' and ''gender separation in all public areas.''

The wording is polite, and there is no threat of enforcement.

But even so, passers-by who have spotted the sign near County Route 105 and Bakertown Road in Monroe have taken umbrage at what they see as an expectation to conform to one group's religious beliefs and dress codes in a public place.

''I know it's a request, and it certainly was a polite request,'' said James Murphy of Highland Mills. ''But it puts me in an uncomfortable position. Why should it bother you what I'm wearing?''

David Ekstein, president of Congregation Yetev Lev, says the signs were meant to guide outsiders so they don't offend village residents, especially during the summer. No single incident or spate of visitors with objectionable clothing triggered them, he said.

''If our standards of modesty are not what is practiced in the surrounding communities, then it is even more incumbent to provide this polite reminder,'' he said.

(Source: Times Herald Record)

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/69095/Kiryas-Joel-Posts-%27Tznius%27-Signs-For-Visitors.html



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נשלח ב-1/9/2010 18:23 לינק ישיר 

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New signs posted at two entrances to the Village of Kiryas Joel ask visitors to dress and behave in a modest way, in keeping with the Hasidic community's religious customs.TOM BUSHEY/Times Herald-Record
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Published: 2:00 AM - 08/31/10

KIRYAS JOEL — A large new sign greets visitors as they cross over Route 17 on Forest Avenue and enter a world where the skirts and shirt sleeves are always long, regardless of the season.

"Welcome to Kiryas Joel," it reads. "In keeping with our traditions and religious customs, we kindly ask that you dress and behave in a modest way while visiting our community."

The main congregation in this community of 22,000 Satmar Hasidim recently posted identical notices near two village entrances to ask outsiders to respect their ways while visiting, which includes "covered necklines," "appropriate language" and "gender separation in all public areas."

The wording is polite, and there is no threat of enforcement.

But even so, passers-by who have spotted the sign near County Route 105 and Bakertown Road in Monroe have taken umbrage at what they see as an expectation to conform to one group's religious beliefs and dress codes in a public place.

"I know it's a request, and it certainly was a polite request," said James Murphy of Highland Mills. "But it puts me in an uncomfortable position. Why should it bother you what I'm wearing?"

David Ekstein, president of Congregation Yetev Lev, says the signs were meant to guide outsiders so they don't offend village residents, especially during the summer. No single incident or spate of visitors with objectionable clothing triggered them, he said.

"If our standards of modesty are not what is practiced in the surrounding communities, then it is even more incumbent to provide this polite reminder," he said.

Modest dress is strictly observed in Hasidic communities for the same reason that unmarried men and women stay apart and risque images are shunned: to block sexual impulses.

Women can't wear provocative clothing. And men aren't supposed to see anything that may inspire inappropriate thoughts. In New York City, where cultures mix more freely than in self-contained Kiryas Joel, some Hasidic men avoid temptation by removing their glasses while in public or turning away from women.






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Even in scorching temperatures and under a blazing summer sun, you will not find people in Kiryas Joel dressed in tank tops and short-shorts.

And frankly, that's just the way village leaders in the Orange County community of roughly 22,000 Hasidic Jews like it.

So much so, they recently installed a pair of new signs along the village line.


The signs not only welcome visitors, but also ask them to, among other things, wear long skirts or pants, cover necklines, and maintain gender separation in all public places.


"You're not going to be arrested. Whoever wants to come, I live here, I grew up here. Actually, people know what to do. This is for people that don't know," said Kahan, a Kiryas Joel resident.

"It's good because I have children in my house. I have eight children. It is very good," another resident said.

The village mayor was unavailable to talk about the new signs, which call Kiryas Joel, "a traditional community of modesty and values."

An area cab driver told Eyewitness News he can respect the request for respect.

"I think they have a right to do that. I mean, people do show up in inappropriate things and it offends them. So I can't argue with that," Tim Diltz said.

People Eyewitness News talked to say the signs were not put up in response to a flood of visitors who poured into the village with exposed shoulders and foul language.

The signs are really nothing more than friendly reminders about the traditions and values that are truly important in the community.




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