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נשלח ב-8/5/2012 02:07 לינק ישיר 

דו ענטפערסט שלא מן הענין.

דער מציאות איז אז דער ריכטער שרייבט אז ר' דוד ראזענבערג איז באגאנגען פראוד.
דער מציאות איז דער פאוסט איגנארירט עס.

קוק אן די נייעס וויאזוי די רעספעקטירטע ניו  יארק לאו דזשורנאל האט עס באשריבן:

Judge Nullifies Transfer of Upstate Summer Camp

Andrew Keshner

New York Law Journal

10-12-2011

 

A judge who says he was blindsided by a faction in a religious "schism" has nullified the conveyance of about 325 acres of campground in upstate Ulster County.

Supreme Court Justice James P. Gilpatric (See Profile) complained that he was not told before approving the transaction that it had been sought by one of two feuding factions within one congregation of the Satmar community of Hasidic Jews without the agreement of the other faction.

The original application was "the quintessence of non-disclosure, bordering on a fraudulent application before this court," Justice Gilpatric wrote in Matter of the Application of Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc., 5848-2010

Referring to the 2007 Court of Appeals decision in Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar v. Kahana, 9 NY3d 282, Justice Gilpatric noted, "Based on what is an obvious schism in this Congregation that has commanded the attention of no less that New York State Court of Appeals, the petitioner literally chose to ignore the serious conflict within the Congregation and assumed authority to act on behalf of all members, without any legally binding authority."

The property at issue contains a summer camp open to Satmar Hasidic children of all factions that is run by Congregation Machneh Rav Tov but had been in the name of Brooklyn-based Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar.

In December 2010, Justice Gilpatric approved an application by a group purporting to represent Congregation Yetev Lev for transfer of the property nunc pro tunc to Rav Tov.

But after the transfer, Berl Friedman, president of the "true" Yetev Lev, notified the court that the conveyors represented a rival faction within the congregation led by Jacob Kahan and had been acting without the entire group's authority. He asked the judge to nullify his earlier decision.

Attorneys for Rav Tov did not dispute the existence of an internal conflict at Yetev Lev. However, they contended that Mr. Friedman was "seeking to embroil this Court and the Attorney General into an intramural squabble within the Satmar Community," like the Court of Appeals had avoided in its 2007 ruling.

The state's Religious Corporation Law requires court approval of any sale of religious property. Here, the Attorney General's Office did not object to conveyance, but Assistant Attorney General G. Nicholas Garin said in court papers that he was never told the ownership of the land was in dispute. Had he known, he would have advised the court to notify both factions of the proposed conveyance. And he said he had no objection to unraveling the court's action.

Donald J. Kravet of Kravet & Vogel was co-counsel to the "true" Yetev Lev. Calling the decision "straightforward," he said in an interview that "the judge, when made aware what actually occurred, was disturbed and unwound the transactions as was appropriate."

Richard M. Mahon II, of Tarshis, Catania, Liberth, Mahon & Milligram in Newburgh also represented Yetev Lev.

Benjamin Ostrer of Ostrer & Hoovler in Chester represented the Kahan faction that originally sought the conveyance, although he did not appear in that action.

Mr. Ostrer said that Rav Tov, when seeking to create a camp about 50 years ago, lacked sufficient assets to secure title. So it enlisted Congregation Yetev Lev, which put its name on the title but was only "the nominal owner."

He said he was disappointed by the ruling.

"We thought at worst the court should not have reached the issue of annulling the deed. …On the merits, the transfer was just," Mr. Ostrer said. He noted that Rav Tov has been the group running and maintaining the camp over the years. "But the judge appears to be offended by some of the machinations and it's certainly understandable," he said.

Marc Illish of the Law Office of B. Kogan in Brooklyn represented Rav Tov. He said that his client, as the "equitable owner" of the property, would appeal the decision and initiate a proceeding under Article 15 of the Real Property Actions and Proceedings Law for the determination of title.

In a statement, Mr. Illish insisted that notifying all factions of Yetev Lev was not a prerequisite to the transfer.

"In any event, the failure to give the notice pales by comparison to the fact that only Rav Tov invested the money and sweat into the camp sites for over 50 years, which was never disputed by any faction," he said. "Accordingly, the granting of the [original] petition was a just result."

@|Andrew Keshner can be contacted at [email protected]




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נשלח ב-8/5/2012 17:21 לינק ישיר 

דאס איז דער  פסק פון ריכטער גילפעטריק, ווי ער שרייבט אז דוד ראזענבערג איז באגאנגען א זאך וואס גרעניצט זיך מיט FRAUD.

אכטונג באלאנד. איר קענט ליינען ענגליש?
אויב יא, קענט איר אויך מודה זיין אז דער POST איגנארירט די "ציפעדיגע FRAUD" פאר עפעס א סיבה?
דו וועסט אבער נישט מודה זיין



The initial application by the petitioner is the quintessence of non-disclosure, bordering on a fraudulent application before this Court. Based on what is an obvious schism in this Congregation that has commanded the attention of no less that New York State Court of Appeals (see Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc.v Kahana, 9 NY3d 282 [2007]), the petitioner literally chose to ignore the serious conflict within the Congregation and assumed authority to act [*3]on behalf of all [emphasis added] members, without any legally binding authority. The Court acted upon the initial application without having essential facts disclosed to it or the Attorney General' Office by the petitioner. Furthermore, the transferee, Congregation Machneh Rav Tov, knowingly participated in the application with the full knowledge of the essential facts being withheld. As such, this Court shall vacate its prior order and dismiss the petitioner's original application outright, without prejudice to submission of the same by duly authorized representatives of the petitioner's congregation, if and when such event occurs pursuant to the remittal by the Court of Appeals to all the members of said congregation. The remaining arguments have been considered and found to be without merit or moot.

Accordingly, it is hereby

ORDERED that this Court's December 2, 2010 order authorizing transfer of real property pursuant to Not For Profit Corporation Law § 202 et seq is vacated; and it is further




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נשלח ב-8/5/2012 17:53 לינק ישיר 

באלאנד.

די ווערטער האט נישט לאנצוט געשריבן, נאר דער דזשאדזש.
נישט קעגן די ארונים, נאר קעגן ר' דוד ראזענבערג.

http://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2011/2011-51794.html

און דער POST האט עס נישט געפונען פאר וויכטיג אריינצושטעלן... אפשר ווייסטו פארוואס?



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נשלח ב-9/5/2012 00:29 לינק ישיר 

אינטרעסאנט וויאזוי באלאנד איז נעבעך אוועקגעקומען און איז נישט צום האבן מער...
מ'גיט אים א שנעלקע און ער באהאלט זיך...



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נשלח ב-9/5/2012 02:59 לינק ישיר 

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http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/political_news/160768/struggle-for-control-of-catskills-jewish-camp-may-spill-into-brooklyn-congressional-race 

Struggle For Control Of Catskills Jewish Camp May Spill Into Brooklyn Congressional Race
Every summer, thousands of children from the Satmar Jewish community in Williamsburg, Brooklyn head upstate for summer camp, but a decade-long dispute may prevent the camp from opening this year, and the fight is seeping into a congressional race in Brooklyn. NY1's Courtney Gross filed the following report.

A fight over cabins in the woods of the Catskills is complicating Congresswoman Nydia Velazquez's re-election bid.

"Someone injected politics here, it wasn't me. I am trying to be the voice of reason," said Velazquez.

Control over the Jewish kids' camps in Ellenville in Ulster County, a two-hour drive from Velazquez's Brooklyn district, is kicking up a decade-long feud between two sects of the Satmar Jewish community in Brooklyn: the Zalmans and the Aaronites.

"The people that are going to get hurt here won't be the politicians, it won't be the lawyers. It will be the children," said Hank Sheinkopf, a consultant for the Zalmans faction.

Assemblyman Vito Lopez, the Brooklyn Democratic Party leader, is on the Zalmans' side.

"It's a poor political decision on [Velazquez's] part, because the overwhelming number of people, if majority rules and 80 percent of them are in need and support this, it's sad that she has taken the minority position," said Lopez.

"The person that you mention [Lopez] went up there to advocate for the four camps to be given to one group," said Velazquez. "I am not advocating for that. I am advocating for all the girls."

The dispute over these camps actually began several years ago, but did not come to a head until this year. It looks like this fight could end up affecting the Democratic primary for Congress, as the Satmar Jewish community in Williamsburg has turned the tide in past elections.

Velazquez faces her first serious Democratic primary challenge in 20 years, from City Councilman Erik Martin Dilan, who is backed by Lopez.

"I cannot back someone who has no respect for what I am doing," Lopez said.

But Velazquez has others in her corner.

"Vito Lopez does not even represent this community," said Abe Rubin of UJ Care.

The Ulster County executive met with representatives of both sides on Monday, but it is still unclear whether the camp's gates will be open at all this summer.




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נשלח ב-9/5/2012 05:23 לינק ישיר 

לאנצוס איך זעה נישט דא אז דער שופט זאל שרייבן אז דוד ראזענבערג איז באגאנגען א FRAUD סך הכל האסטו געברענגט דא א ארטיקל פון א צייטונג וואס די אהרוינים האבן אריינגעשטעלט.



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נשלח ב-9/5/2012 06:47 לינק ישיר 

סארא דזשאוק ער טענה'ט אז מילא די פאוסט איז דאך באצאלט פון די זאליס שליסט ער אויס די "כלומרשטע פראוד" פון דוד ראזענבערג.נו מילא ער איז דאך באצאלט,
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נישטא ווער ס'זאל לאכן, ווען די ארונים האבן געטרענספערט דיעדס פון ביה"ח, און פון די ברוקלינע פראפערטיעס בער-ענד-פארט טויזענט מאל "פראודיענטלי" פון דעם ווייסט נישט דער לא יקח שוחד דער הויכגעשעצטער סיפעטריק.

ווער ס'געדענקט נאך איז אמאל געווען א דזשאדזש ראזענוואסער ער האט אויך געוויזן פנים בת היענה, אבער נאך א ביסל אויפדעקן זיינע טעלעפאון קאנטאקטס איז ער מער נישטא צו האבן געווען....



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