יהדות בעיני העולם

מה אני אגיד לך אזרחי....קצת מטריד כל הקטע הזה עם העליונות והכפייתיות, אם יש משהו שההיסטוריה מלמדת אותנו הוא שאי אפשר לכפות שום דבר על אף אחד, לא באופן מועיל. נראה לי שדרוש כאן בדק בית יסודי.

בכל אופן, הנה מה שכתבתי לו בינתיים (אם מישהו מעוניין בתרגום לעברית אפשר לפעול בנידון):

here's some (maybe trivial) general background from my own knowledge.
first, acording to something i read lately there are aprox 15 million Jews living in the world today (that's all and about 5m in Israel) and they differ to many streams ...from total non religious to very religious, the majority of them are basic traditionaly Jews that are very normal people and usualy celebrating the sagnificants Jewish holidays.

our religion is based on the bible, which starts with the story of the world's creation by God...and tells the story of the dinasty of the first man and their relation to their creator.
by the way acording to Judaism the world was created less than 6000 years ago.
in the first 2000 years or so people was beliving in various things, mostly in multiple gods but "here and there" were some just people that had some relation to the lord of creation himself. the story of Judaism starts with Abraham which was the first Jew...and made the contract with the lord by the ritual circumcision, which is caled in Hebrew 'word alliance' (we holds lots of importance to words:)...and i know that Muslims do that too...and this is not weird since Abraham is also the father of Ismael which acording to our belif is the source of the branch that developed as the Muslim religion.
after that contract of Abraham and God...God lead him to the the promiss land and, ofcourse, promissed him and his childrends that land (as i write this i realize that both Jews and Muslims have clames for the land and it is now seems quite clear that the land was peomissed to both Muslim and Jews and not to one on the expance of the other :)
from here to there after several hunderd of year living in the promiss land the Hebrew people was expelled to be slaves in Egypt, building piramyds and stuff to Pharaos untill Moses came.
with the direction of God Moses, with the help of his brother Aaron managed to take the Hebrew people out of Egypt to a 40 years tour in the deserts all the way back to the promiss land. during that exodus, the second significant event in the history of the Hebrew people took place...the birth of the Jewish religion.
it is told that Moses went to mount sinay and recived the Torah from God...the book of laws to guid the Hebrew people to live acording to the laws of god (that's the story of 'the chosen people' which have many meanings, some of them are "literal" and some wider and more global) and since that event the Hebrew people carried with them to the promiss land the holy book of God that was written by god himself on big rocks...the mission...placing the book in Gods temple that was built when they arrived the holy land and than it was destroyd by someone and rebuilt again by king Solomon and destroyed again by Greeks (i think) and "poof" the Jewish people was expelled again for 2000 more years this time spread all along the globe.
during this long period of time, strangely, there were lots Jewish people that remaind loyal to their religion and connection to God and, after WWll and the holocaust ,the movement to get back to the holyland that took place since the begining of last century (1900) got a strong reinforcement when the remains of the Jewish communities in Europe "said: thank you" to their hosting countries and bought one way tickets on rickety boats to Palestine which was rulled by the British empire at that time...and then it got too crowdy here and the British got home sick and they tried to split the holyland and give two countries for both the Palestines and the Jews...but if i'm not wrong, the Arabs didn't agree for any Jewish country and when the Isrelis declared the establisment of the stae of Israel they declared war on it...and there started a series of wars along the years that somehow ended with the Israelis occupying lots of Arab lands and all that mess.
an important thing is, that while the Jews were in exile the Muslims built their own temple on the remains of the Jewish temple in Jerusalm...this is a "hot" issue because there are those Jews who wants their temple back at it's place.
btw no one knows where are the holy stones from mount sinay...some have reasons to think that it is in Ethyopia.

thats some background that i think is a good basis for conversation.

תרגום אחי.

אני אתפנה לזה אולי ביום שישי (דרך אגב הפורום הזה שומר שבת? :)
אם מישהו יכול ומתחשק לו לתרגם את זה לפני כן...בבקשה.

שמור וזכור. ושוב תודה רבה שאתה כאן. ראית הבלוג?

על לא דבר.

איזה בלוג?

http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/hydepark/topic.asp?topic_id=1826155 שים גם

כן, כן, רוצים תרגום... אם היה לי זמן הייתי מתרגמת, אבל אני טובעת פה בעבודה. רק קפצתי קצת להתאוורר...

*--StartFragment * השורש היסודי לסכסוך היהודי מוסלמי נעוץ ביהדות

וגם *--StartFragment * הבסיס לתקווה של קיום הרמוני נעוץ ביהדות.

הסכסוך נובע מכך שישנם יהודים שמתייחסים אל הגויים שלא באופן שהיהדות מתייחסת,

והקיום ההרמוני ינבע מכך שהיהודים יתייחסו אל הגויים על פי היהדות.

אבל איזה הרמוניה בין הדתות תהיה אם לפי היהדות צריך למחות את זרע עמלק? או היה צריך לעשות כן, ואני לא יודע מה העמדה כרגע כי כבר הפסיקו לכתוב את התנ"ך לפני איזה אלפיים שנה.

אזרחי היקר הגישה שאתה מציג נראית לי קיצונית ביותר ונוגדת את המצפון האישי שלי
היא גורסת ש"אתה" או מי שאתה מייצג יודע עבור כל היהודים איך עליהם לנהוג ויש לו תכנית לכפות עליהם לנהוג באופן הזה בשם השם ולמען סדרי בראשית.
נראה לי שאתם חיים בעידן הקודם (וכך גם המוסלמים הקיצונים)...המציאות היום ומה שהיא מזמנת הם ליגה אחרת לגמרי.