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| נשלח ב-29/5/2006 20:52 |
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קאמף קעגן ניתוחי מתים אין אשדוד
א היימישע איין יעריג קינד איז ל"ע אוועק אין אשדוד, און אזויווי אלעמאל האבן די אינסטאנצן געפלאנט מחלל זיין כבוד המת
און מנתח זיין, עסקנים האבן גערעדט און פארפירט, מהאט פראטעסטירט אין גרויסן אבער דאס עקשנות איז געווען גרויס, האבן
אומאידענטיפיצירטע עסקנים דורך א שפיצל פארכאפט דעם גוף און געברענגט לקבר ישראל, אן דעם וואס די משפחה זאל
אנטייל נעמען אין די קבורה.
שווער צו זאגן צו די העראישע שריט איז אויסגעהאלטן ע"פ הלכה אדער נישט, איין זאך איז אבער זיכער, אז דער קאמף ווערט
נאר ערגער און ערגער.
באריכטן אין ידיעות אחרונות -
סהאט זיך אנגעהויבן מיט א חשד:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3255773,00.html
ווען די מדינה האט געוואלט מאכן פאלמעסינג האט מען גענומען שריט:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3256146,00.html
און געברענגט לקבר ישראל:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3256324,00.html
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| נשלח ב-29/5/2006 21:10 |
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It is believed that the body was snatched from the purification room at the cemetery by ultra-Orthodox protesters who spent the day rioting over a court decision to run DNA tests on the baby's body as reported on VOS IZ NEIAS. Police detained a suspect in the abduction, a 53-year-old resident of Ashdod, it is believed that he has been involved in the body's abduction.
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| נשלח ב-29/5/2006 21:32 |
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מיין מעשה מיט די נעכטיגע ראיאטן איז געווען אזוי:
געווען בין איך אויפן וועג אהיים פון א חתונה, אריבערגייענדיג יחזקאל פינת עזרא זעה איך פון דערווייטענס ווי ס'לעבט זיך ביי די אנדערע עק עזרא, געזעהן האב איך ווי מ'שפריצט וואסער און ס'לעבט זיך, כ'האב געטראכט לאמיר א בליק טון זעהן וואס ס'טוט זיך.
איך גיי אהין אבער צו מיין מזל בין איך שוין געגאנגען צו ווייט דארט נאך ווישניץ, און פלוצלינג דער עולם לויפט, ביז וואס ווען וואו שטייט א יס"מניק קעגן מיר, איך בין געגאנגען רואיג (שפאצירענדיג) און איך האב נישט געמערקט אז א יס"מניק שטייט קעגן מיר, און איך געב אזא זאג סליחה אפשר לעבור? געט ער א געשריי "זוז" איך הייב אויף דעם קאפ און וואס זעה איך? א יס"מניק, און ער שרייט אויף מיר "זוז" "זוז" און איך רוק מיר צו די זייט, זיי האבן אנגעכאפט עפעס א בחור אונטער מיר און עם אנגעזעצט די ביינער און עם גענומען מיט זיך.
איך האב שווער אפגעאטעמט פון די נס וואס איך האב געהאט דא.
און אזוי טראכטענדיג וואס האט פאסירט דא לויפט מען נאכאמאל, יעצט האב איך שוין געהויבן פיס און געלאפן.
לויפענדיג איז מיין סעלפאן ארויסגעפלויגן פונעם האלטער און איך בין שנעל אריינגעלאפן אין ווישניץ , פונקט איז געווען דארט אפן א ספר האב איך מיר צוגעזעצט דארט, זעהט אויס איינער האט עס אנגעגרייט אין קעיס עניטינג.
דער עולם אין הויף האט געשריגן כל מיני לשונות אויף די פאליציי זיי האבן אנגעמכלט די ביינער דארט פאר צוויי חבר'ה און עם גענומען צו ארעסטירן, איך בין אויך ארויס צום הויף זעהן ווי מיין סעלפאן איז געפלויגן, באט כ'האב נישט געזעהן.
ווען ס'האט זיך בארואיגט אביסל בין איך צוריק געגאנגען צום גאס, און צוזאמגעקליבן מיין סעלפן וואס איז געווען אויסגעשפרייט ווי טיטוס ביים ים.
אבער ב"ה ס'ארבעט......
היינט האט אויך עפעס געפלאקערט מיסטן אין מא"ש.
ב"ה מענטשען האבן וואס צו טון "להחיות בהם נפש כל חי"
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| נשלח ב-29/5/2006 21:35 |
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עוד עם ישראל חי
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| נשלח ב-29/5/2006 23:52 |
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וואס ווינדערט מיך דא איז אז פון ליינען וועגען די פרשה זעט מיר אויס אז די חברה וואס האבען דאס געטון זענען נישט קיין קנאים נאר בעלזער ליטווישע מיט גערער.
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| נשלח ב-30/5/2006 07:32 |
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סליחה אדוני ג'ובוי
אבער וואס מיינט י"סמניק?
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| נשלח ב-30/5/2006 09:07 |
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ער רעד פין די משטרה וואס פארען אויף די מאטערביציקלעך אונגעטון אין שווארץ, ווען עס איז דא ראיטן פארען זיי אריין צווישען די מענטשען, אין דער וואס זיצט פין אינטען שמייסט אויף רעכטס אין לינקס.
דא האט איר איינעם
יחידת סיור מיוחדת
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| נשלח ב-30/5/2006 16:36 |
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Israel - The success of Jewish extremists in snatching the body of an infant they thought was slated for autopsy from under the noses of a battery of police officers is a positive sign from God, a spokesman for the Edah H'Charedis, said. "It was God's hand," said the spokesman, who preferred to remain anonymous for fear police would try to grill him to discover the location of the body, which was clandestinely buried.
The extremists objected to what they considered an autopsy, even after the family, in consultation with rabbis, agreed to a series of tests. These would have involved the drawing of brain fluid from the baby. An unlikely series of moves which the Edah source equated with "a miracle" enabled a small but determined group of Charedim to snatch the tiny body from the padlocked, refrigerated holding room in the Ashdod cemetery.
According to the source, the body snatchers achieved their goal thanks to God and a carefully coordinated plan that included filing the bars of a window with pocketknives, breaking down a door that led to the refrigerated room, and passing the body through a window to the waiting arms of collaborators.
The man responsible for squirming through the small window and breaking into the refrigerated room was even detained but later released by the police. The charedi men who transported the infant's body for burial were also stopped by a police roadblock, questioned and searched, but, miraculously, let go.
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| נשלח ב-30/5/2006 17:45 |
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Jerusalem, Israel - Police arrested 10 ultra-Orthodox men in Jerusalem on rioting charges during a protest against an autopsy ordered on an infant's body, the ultra-Orthodox members attacked police officers and set garbage bins on fire. Some 500 members of the community came to protest the autopsy, breaking windows and causing severe damage to buildings.
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=7888
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| נשלח ב-31/5/2006 04:17 |
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Extremism in Defense of Torah
We seem to be having a cultural war. But not the one most people think of when this phrase is used. I am not talking about the war between the secular world and its complete lack of any standard of sexual behavior and the God fearing religious world who have clearly defined sexual mores. This indeed is a war fought in this country and in Israel as we speak. But I am talking about another war. The war is between normalcy and extremism within our own Orthodox world. The most recent and personal event which precipitates my writing this article is a something that happened in Ramat Bet Shemesh, Israel on Lag B'Omer.
Ramat Bet Shemesh is very dear to me. I have spent much enjoyable time there visiting my son and his family. I love that community. It is a new and near totally Shomer Shabbos with a mix of Charedim (about 59%) and Daatim (about39%) and Chilonim (about 2%). It is a physically beautiful suburb of Bet Shemesh, newly developed and overlooking a gorgeous view of nearby mountainous terrain. All residences are built with Jerusalem stone and vary from single family homes, to townhouses, to multi-unit condominiums. It is well planned and very user friendly ...the fastest growing religious community in Israel. But all is not well there.
There is a segment of Orthodoxy that refuses to countenance anything other than their own Hashkafos and views. They refuse to recognize any deviance from their own interpretation of Halacha by anyone. And their rabbinic leaders who know that there are differences in Psak ignore those differences and encourage what can only be called hooliganism in the pursuit of their own agendas... hooliganism that results in violence and injury. Such was the case in Ramat Bet Shemesh on Lag B'Omer. This was made known to me in a comment in my last post:
''In Ramat Bet Shemeh, on Lag B'Omer, there was a boy's choir in the park. The concert was attended by a variety of people, although mostly chareidi mothers with their children, including Rebbetzen Kornfeld of the Gra shul. The mayor of Bet Shemesh was also there. During his speech, suddenly Rav Perlstein, the self-styled mara d'asra of Ramat Bet Shemesh, burst upon the scene with about ten of his goons. They shouted "pritzus!" and started pushing away the women and children. They even went on stage and physically pushed the boys away. One child was hurt and needed medical attention. Rav Perlstein is being sued for 100,000 shekel.''
I confirmed this Chilul HaShem with my Charedi children in Ramat Bet Shemesh and indeed this is what happened. And they are as appalled by it as I am.
It is somewhat of a relief to know that some of the prominent local Rabbanim spoke out against him. But... that someone who was considered a leader in the community felt justified in leading an attack like this is a major problem in the Charedi world. One which is reflected as well in their actions and attitudes on other issues: Rioting mobs, or in disparagement of Non-Jews or Modern Orthodox Jews, or covering up sexual crimes... all these are issues stemming from the same source, a source that creates a Rav Perlstein.
Rav Perlstein is not a crazy exception. He is a respected Rav hired many years ago by the Charedi community in Ramat Bet Shemesh from London to come there and basically be their Posek. He a Posek of some renown. And he does not represent some isolated fringe groups but a significant number of people who have similar ideas of how one should react to various situations they don't approve of.
It is clear that many Charedim do not approve of such people. But they continue in positions of leadership and spread their influences becoming more strident with every passing event.
It seems as though our enemies within are as dangerous as our enemies without, at least in a spiritual sense. As great a danger as anti-Semites pose (whether Jew or non-Jew) there seems to be an equal danger by observant Jews who are hostile to their own Torah observant brethren. I don't know how this will end but it seems like sanity and common sense is gone and extremism has taken its place.
http://vosizneias.blogspot.com/2006/05/israel-edah-hcharedis-said-snatching_29.html
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Extremism in Defense of Torah
We seem to be having a cultural war. But not the one most people think of when this phrase is used. I am not talking about the war between the secular world and its complete lack of any standard of sexual behavior and the God fearing religious world who have clearly defined sexual mores. This indeed is a war fought in this country and in Israel as we speak. But I am talking about another war. The war is between normalcy and extremism within our own Orthodox world. The most recent and personal event which precipitates my writing this article is a something that happened in Ramat Bet Shemesh, Israel on Lag B'Omer.
Ramat Bet Shemesh is very dear to me. I have spent much enjoyable time there visiting my son and his family. I love that community. It is a new and near totally Shomer Shabbos with a mix of Charedim (about 59%) and Daatim (about39%) and Chilonim (about 2%). It is a physically beautiful suburb of Bet Shemesh, newly developed and overlooking a gorgeous view of nearby mountainous terrain. All residences are built with Jerusalem stone and vary from single family homes, to townhouses, to multi-unit condominiums. It is well planned and very user friendly ...the fastest growing religious community in Israel. But all is not well there.
There is a segment of Orthodoxy that refuses to countenance anything other than their own Hashkafos and views. They refuse to recognize any deviance from their own interpretation of Halacha by anyone. And their rabbinic leaders who know that there are differences in Psak ignore those differences and encourage what can only be called hooliganism in the pursuit of their own agendas... hooliganism that results in violence and injury. Such was the case in Ramat Bet Shemesh on Lag B'Omer. This was made known to me in a comment in my last post:
''In Ramat Bet Shemeh, on Lag B'Omer, there was a boy's choir in the park. The concert was attended by a variety of people, although mostly chareidi mothers with their children, including Rebbetzen Kornfeld of the Gra shul. The mayor of Bet Shemesh was also there. During his speech, suddenly Rav Perlstein, the self-styled mara d'asra of Ramat Bet Shemesh, burst upon the scene with about ten of his goons. They shouted "pritzus!" and started pushing away the women and children. They even went on stage and physically pushed the boys away. One child was hurt and needed medical attention. Rav Perlstein is being sued for 100,000 shekel.''
I confirmed this Chilul HaShem with my Charedi children in Ramat Bet Shemesh and indeed this is what happened. And they are as appalled by it as I am.
It is somewhat of a relief to know that some of the prominent local Rabbanim spoke out against him. But... that someone who was considered a leader in the community felt justified in leading an attack like this is a major problem in the Charedi world. One which is reflected as well in their actions and attitudes on other issues: Rioting mobs, or in disparagement of Non-Jews or Modern Orthodox Jews, or covering up sexual crimes... all these are issues stemming from the same source, a source that creates a Rav Perlstein.
Rav Perlstein is not a crazy exception. He is a respected Rav hired many years ago by the Charedi community in Ramat Bet Shemesh from London to come there and basically be their Posek. He a Posek of some renown. And he does not represent some isolated fringe groups but a significant number of people who have similar ideas of how one should react to various situations they don't approve of.
It is clear that many Charedim do not approve of such people. But they continue in positions of leadership and spread their influences becoming more strident with every passing event.
It seems as though our enemies within are as dangerous as our enemies without, at least in a spiritual sense. As great a danger as anti-Semites pose (whether Jew or non-Jew) there seems to be an equal danger by observant Jews who are hostile to their own Torah observant brethren. I don't know how this will end but it seems like sanity and common sense is gone and extremism has taken its place.
http://vosizneias.blogspot.com/2006/05/israel-edah-hcharedis-said-snatching_29.html