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נשלח ב-24/6/2009 23:11 לינק ישיר 
נידערמאן ארויס קעגן וועד הרבנים

די זשואיש פרעסס איז היינט ארויס געקומען און געשריבן אז נידערמאן און דר פרישמאן קריגן אויף די פסק הרבנים פון די וועד און לאנדאן
נידערמאן איז נישט קיין רב, פרישמאן אויך נישט (ער קומט פון קאלעזש מיט א דיגרי) און זיי זאגן פארן זשואיש פרעסס אז זיי קריגן
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My Machberes

By: Rabbi Gershon Tannenbaum

Date: Wednesday, June 24 2009

Jewish Funeral In Toledo, Spain

 

            On Sunday, June 21, 105 Jewish skeletal remains, originally buried in Toledo, Spain, more than 600 years ago and recently excavated, were re-interred by observant Jews in or near their original burial places within the original grounds of that ancient Jewish cemetery. This brought to a successful end the protracted multi-level negotiations that were launched upon archeological confirmation that the bones unearthed in excavations for the expansion of an overpopulated school were part of a here-to-unregistered ancient Jewish cemetery. Tombstones were destroyed long ago, denying us identification of the individual remains.  
 
            The battle for the Jewish bones of Toledo began in October 2008, when a number of different organizations mounted campaigns to condemn the desecration, sought a complete restoration of the unearthed remains, and an ironclad agreement of preservation. The final agreement was achieved by the Committee for the Preservation of Jewish Cemeteries in Europe, the London based international organization led by Rabbi Elyakim Schlesinger, greatly respected London Rosh Yeshiva. The other organization involved in an independent campaign was Asrah Kadisha, led by veteran cemetery protector Rabbi Dovid Schmidal.  
 
            Though an agreement and understanding had been accomplished by Rabbi Schlesinger's group, a protest gathering reportedly attended by thousands filled the Marriott Grand Ballroom in Brooklyn on Tuesday night, May 26, to decry the desecration of ancient Jewish cemeteries in Spain. The mass gathering was called after the Spanish government, having come to an accord with Rabbi Schlesinger's group, turned down further demands by Asrah Kadisha.  
 

Opposition To The Toledo Agreement

 

            After this column reported on the agreement in Toledo (The Jewish Press, Machberes, June 12, 2009), this writer was contacted by Rabbi Moshe Dovid Niederman, universally respected president of the United Jewish Organizations of Williamsburg (UJO), as well as by Dr. Bernard Fryshman, renowned activist for the observant community. They both felt that the agreement was a compromise and, therefore, unacceptable. We received the following letter from Dr. Fryshman:  
 
     "In 2007, the Spanish Government received protests from around the world over the removal of graves from Jewish cemeteries in Tarrega, Lucena, and Barcelona. With unmarked Jewish cemeteries throughout Spain, groups such as Asrah Kadisha and the Conference of Academicians for the Protection of Jewish Cemeteries asked that building sites be examined for the existence of graves before permits were issued. 
 
 
Re-interment in Toledo Spain, June 21, 2009
 
 
     "The Federation of Jewish Communities in Spain (FCJE), on the other hand, issued a Protocol in July 2007 which was intended in part, '... to serve as a guide for the exhumation of remains which must be done with the maximum discretion and neatness.'    This enabled the Spanish Government to ignore the storm of protests, claiming that 'there was no desecration because the bodies were buried elsewhere!'  
 

    "We argued that the recently established FCJE could not arrogate unto itself the control or ownership of Spain's Jewish cemeteries, all of which are over 600 years old. And we pointed out that the FJCE does not have the authority to sign any agreement relating to these sacred sites.

 

    "It was to be expected that the Spanish Government elected to discuss cemetery matters exclusively with FCJE. Nor were we totally surprised at the lack of support by our own State Department. Diplomats do seek to avoid friction with host countries, and the Embassy in Spain and the desk officer in Washington took the path of the fainthearted.  
 
     "What was unsettling was the readiness of two European Jewish groups to cooperate closely with the FCJE when, in 2008, it was discovered that the Jewish cemetery in Toledo was being excavated. This cooperation gave legitimacy to the FCJE's involvement, and inadvertently, to its infamous Protocol. This in turn provided the cover for the Spaniards to complete their nefarious deed.  
 
     "What happened in Spain has implications for all of us. Protecting the integrity of Jewish cemeteries depends on the natural aversion of civilized people to disturbing the dead. It requires the persistent argument that desecrating the dead violates their Human Rights, and violates the Jewish people's Freedom of Religion and Right to Maintain Property.
 
        "These are our sacred sites, we state firmly, and explain that we are not in a position to negotiate away any part of a cemetery. Finally, moral support and advocacy by the U.S. State Department has a major impact on most nations.  
 
    "The fact that some Jewish groups engaged in the protection of Jewish cemeteries appear to be "reasonable" and willing to negotiate, has likely resulted in increasingly aggressive efforts by European governments to excavate cemeteries.  
 
    "The FCJE Protocol will come to the attention of other small Jewish communities in Europe who are pressured to relinquish a cemetery, and anxious to please the local government. If it appears that responsible European Jewish groups are comfortable with FCJE and if it appears that the Spanish Government (after having brutally emptied so many Jewish cemeteries) remains in the good graces of these groups, every Jewish cemetery in the world will be placed in jeopardy.  
 

     "Thank you for bringing the threat to Jewish cemeteries to the attention of your readers, and for this opportunity to expand on the situation in Toledo, Spain."






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נשלח ב-24/6/2009 23:12 לינק ישיר 

http://www.thejewishpress.com/pageroute.do/39864



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נשלח ב-24/6/2009 23:18 לינק ישיר 

כנראה מיידלעך שטערן מדבר מתוך גרונו פון נידערמאן ,



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נשלח ב-24/6/2009 23:24 לינק ישיר 

אבער נידערמאן זאגט דאך אז ער איז נוטראל און פארטרעט יעדן ער רעדט דאך מיטן כח פון אידישע וואוטס



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נשלח ב-24/6/2009 23:35 לינק ישיר 

שעם דיך די ביליגער זייפן משה דוד!
ווי שעמסטו זיך נישט ארויסצוקומען אין די עפענטליכקייט, קעגן אזעלכע גדולי הדור, ווי הגאון הגדול בעל שבט הלוי, הגאון הגדול רבי אליקום שלעזינגער, הגאון רח''מ וואזנער, הגאון רא''ד דונער שליט''א אין די אנדערע תורה ריזן חברי וועד להצלת בתי עלמין באירופה,
וועלכע רב האסטו מיט דיר?, די האסט נאך טענות אז מ'רייסט דיך אראפ!

והוי זהיר בגחלתן, , גיי בעט איבער די הייליגע עצמות וואס די האלסט געוואלט שטערן זייער אייביגע רו, גיי בעט איבער די רבנים גדולי התורה וועמען די רעדסט אויף זיי אזעלכע שקרים,
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