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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 09:07 לינק ישיר 

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תוקן על ידי מנהל_ניק ב- 25/05/2011 18:19:20





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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 09:08 לינק ישיר 
חתימה 5


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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 09:10 לינק ישיר 

Skvere Dayan Montreal previous letter false 5-24-11

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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 15:32 לינק ישיר 
Feds must probe New Square arson


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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 15:36 לינק ישיר 
סקווערע רשעים מוסיפים חטא על פשע

לא די
וואס דאס סקווערע ביה"מ איז נישט פיל געווען מיט תהלים זאגערס פאר א רפואה שלימה פאר א איד וואס איז פארברענט געווארן דורך תלמידי וחסידי סקווער
און וואס איז ל"ע אדורך געגאנגען 8 שעה אפערעשין!

און פאר די שרעקליכע חילול השם פאר די גאנצע וועלט ר"ל
ניין
די נאכט איז פיל געווען די גאסן
מיט פאשקעווילן ק
עגן דעם אימליקליכן פארבענטן איד
מיט שרעקליכע פאלטשע עלילות רחמנה ליצלן

 

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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 15:46 לינק ישיר 
שרעקעדיק דער עדיטאריעל! דער חילול שם שמים לעיני כל העולם, און וואס עס קען נאכקימען פון א פעדעראלן אינוועסטיגעשין ר"ל!

Feds must probe New Square arson

4:50 PM, May. 24, 2011

Aron Rottenberg of New Square has long complained to Ramapo Police that he has suffered for his decision to pray outside his community's synagogue. Now he is in critical condition with burns over half his body, and an 18-year-old New Square resident is charged with attempted murder, arson and assault. Federal authorities, better positioned to inquire where local officials will not, should vigorously investigate the attack, and the systematic harassment that preceded it, as a civil rights violation and hate crime.

The federal probe is warranted because of the pattern of wrongful conduct alleged and the local officials' seeming willful blindness to it. Village leaders and Ramapo Town Supervisor Christopher St. Lawrence summarily dismissed the notion that Rottenberg was the victim of a campaign of intimidation, despite mounting evidence to the contrary. St. Lawrence, who heads the town's Police Commission, on Monday merely parroted representations from New Square officials that the violence was an isolated incident between Rottenberg and his accused attacker, Shaul Spitzer of nearby Adams Lane.

More rigorous inquiry is clearly warranted — and by an outside agency unencumbered by the dictates of local politics. Bloc voting in New Square makes the religious community a potent force in the conduct of town business. Clearly, the parameters of this dispute, rooted in religious expression and First Amendment protections, commands an assessment by impartial authorities.

Struggles from within

The unfolding drama evokes images of the worst violence and intimidation of the civil rights movement of the 1960s. The conflict, however, is reflective of an ongoing tug-of-war within an insular community, rather than pressure from afar. Rottenberg, 43, has said the ostracism began when he and other men decided to pray at the Friedwald Center, a rehabilitation and nursing center outside New Square, rather than the main synagogue in New Square led by Grand Rebbe David Twersky, the dynastic leader of the Skver Hasidim. Most of the men had returned to the main synagogue at Twersky's request, several people have told The Journal News. Rottenberg, though, chose to continue to worship at Friedwald.

Rottenberg and his family have said they have paid a price for that choice. Ramapo police records document escalating incidents of intimidation and harassment: smashed car windows; rapping on a bedroom window in the wee hours; broken windows at his Truman Avenue home; a phone call threatening torment of his daughter in school — her school desk and other belongings then turned up on the front porch; and crowds of men — as many as 300 — massed outside the property. They dispersed when police arrived.

There also was a letter circulated by the village's rabbinical court and carrying Rabbi Twersky's stamp. It ordered that New Square residents use the village's main synagogue. Community members have also reported a meeting in which Twersky, who has not commented publicly on the developments, called for visits to religious services outside his synagogue be stopped. Such allegations are ripe for federal review.

A fiery attack

Rottenberg visited The Journal News offices in West Nyack last November to discuss the incidents, but declined to go public at the time. The choice eluded him last weekend.

On Sunday, Rottenberg confronted an attacker behind his home carrying a rag soaked with flammable liquid. It was 4:12 a.m., according to police. The rag was thrown; Rottenberg was engulfed by flames. His son rolled him on the ground to extinguish the flames, possibly saving his life. The suspect has serious burns on his hands and arms.

According to the Department of Justice's Criminal Section "making violent conduct against religious property and those exercising their religious beliefs [is] a federal crime."

That protection certainly applies to choosing where one prays. It is time for a bigger inquiry into what happened in New Square.

A Journal News editorial

 




תוקן על ידי boyskver ב- 25/05/2011 16:00:38




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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 16:32 לינק ישיר 

די שוטים אין סקעווער, ווארפן מיסע פאשקעווילן אנקעגען איינעם וואס ראנגעלט זיך מיטן לעבען, איך האב נייעס פאר די אומערצויגענע פון סקעווער, אז אפילו די נידריגע גוים טון דאס נישט. דאס ווארפן די פאשקעווילן יעצט, קאנפירמעד אז דאס איז נישט געווען אן אקט פון א יחיד פאר די ווי דער שוטה ״יוסי געשטעטנער״ וואס האבן פרובירט צו ריינוואשן סקעווער און זייער רבי אז דאס שפיגלט נישט אפ סקעווער, ליידער ליידער דאס וואס איז סקעווער, דער רבי איז נישט מער ווי א פראוד פאני יוסי געשטעטנער, אנשטאט די זאלסט פארפירן פארוואס די פאליציי האט גארנישט געטון פאר די לעצטע יאר, און אז זיי האבן בלוט אויף זייער הענד, פרובירטסטו צו פארדעקן די רוצחים סקווער!!!!!



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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 16:54 לינק ישיר 

דאס דערמאנט מיך אין דעם מערדער וואס האט געהרגט זיינע עלטערן אין שרייט אין קארט מען זאל רחמנות האבן אויף א יתום!!! ראטענבערג איז זיך אליין שולדיג, ער האט געשפילט ראשען רולעט.

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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 17:16 לינק ישיר 

משהלע, וואס?????????? איך האב איין ווארט פאר דיר, קויף דיר א איין וועג טיקעט קיין איראן



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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 17:21 לינק ישיר 
א שאנדע פון אזא איד ווי "משהלה" מיר בעטן די הנהלה צו פארבאטן אזא אכזר רשות כתיבה

דער ציבור ווערט געבעטן אויך פראטעסטירן ביי די הנהלה
קעגין דעם בראטאלישן שרייבער!

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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 17:24 לינק ישיר 
היינטיגער ניוס באריכט

http://www.lohud.com/article/20110525/NEWS03/105250353/New-Square-victim-hires-lawyer-suspect-arraigned-hospital?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage

New Square victim hires lawyer; suspect arraigned in hospital

5:13 AM, May. 25, 2011

Attorney Michael Sussman Attorney Michael Sussman
Attorney Michael Sussman

NEW SQUARE — An attorney hired by the family of a man severely burned during an alleged arson attack early Sunday said he will ask for a federal investigation as he reiterated the family's accusation that the incident had resulted from intimidation by religious leaders of the Hasidic Jewish village.

Aron Rottenberg's family hired Orange County lawyer Michael Sussman to ensure the investigation stays on track and the family's interests are protected.

Sussman, known for his civil rights advocacy, is holding a news conference today at Rottenberg's 29 Truman Ave. Home, where the attack occurred.

"We know the history, and they (New Square leaders) always find a way to make things go away," said Moshe Elbaum, Rottenberg's son-in-law. "Even though the detectives are now involved, we want to make sure things go right."

Rottenberg, 43, suffered third-degree burns across 50 percent of his body during a confrontation after 4 a.m. Sunday with Shaul Spitzer, 18, of 7 Adams Lane, Ramapo police said.

Rottenberg, his wife and three children were at home. He and his son Jacob confronted Spitzer and flames from an incendiary device burned all three men.

Rottenberg, a plumber, said his decision not to pray in Grand Rabbi David Twersky's synagogue on Truman Avenue led to months of protests outside his house. Last fall's protests had dissipated until Sunday.

On Tuesday, Rottenberg underwent hours of skin graft surgery at the Westchester Medical Center in Valhalla, Elbaum said.

Spitzer was ordered held on $300,000 bail during his arraignment at Cornell Medical Center's burn unit in Manhattan, where he's being treated for burns to his arms and hands. Late Tuesday afternoon, he posted bail, Sheriff's Department Chief Louis Falco said. Spitzer also had to surrender his passport.

He remains hospitalized, but because he posted bail, the Sheriff's Department will not have to deploy its plan to have the six corrections officers guard him 24 hours a day — two per shift in three shifts — at a cost estimated at $4,000 per day, Falco said.

Spitzer works as a butler in Twersky's house and is a cousin of Deputy Mayor Israel Spitzer, said Elbaum and several other residents.

Police charged Spitzer with second-degree attempted murder, first-degree attempted arson and first-degree assault. His lawyer, county public defender James Licata, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Very few New Square residents will talk about the incident or Twersky's decree that all of his followers pray at the village's synagogue.

"The old rabbi made these rules," Zalmen Rosen, who works at the New Square Fish Market on Adams Lane, said Tuesday. "If you don't like it, move out of here. What, do you want to fight with these people? If you live here, you have to pray here."

Rosen is friends with Rottenberg and said the Spitzers are popular in the village. He said the suspect is a cousin of the deputy mayor.

Rosen said the violence is wrong and that Twersky's religious court — called a Beth Din — should have handled the dispute. He said some young hotheads looking to support Twersky went at the Rottenbergs and that he doesn't believe Spitzer purposely hurt Rottenberg.

Rottenberg told The Journal News in November that he felt his family was being terrorized by supporters of the grand rabbi. He and nearly two dozen other residents boycotted the rabbi's synagogue over the tight control that leaders hold over the community. They instead walked nearly a mile to Friedwald Center to pray.

Hank Sheinkopf, a renowned Democratic consultant, released a statement late Tuesday on behalf of a "group of New Square residents." He would not specify who retained him, but contacted a Journal News reporter by cell phone after the reporter provided his number to a New Square man who said he and other residents would have someone call on their behalf.

"No words can express the sadness we feel over the recent events," the statement reads. "Such behavior has never been tolerated and will never be tolerated. We pray for the healing of those injured, and our communal hearts stay with their families at this very difficult time.

"In our school systems, we intend to renew our commitment to reinforcing our well known ethos of Shalom, peace, and love," the statement continues. "Our pain knows no end."

The statement adds that New Square, historically, has been a "place of peace, charity and kindness throughout the world" and that for more than 60 years, "we have spent our time creating a community that fosters harmonious relationships between residents."

Shaul Spitzer is accused of trying to kill Rottenberg after throwing gasoline-soaked rags onto the rear deck of Rottenberg's house.

Sussman said Rottenberg had no personal issues with Shaul Spitzer, contradicting what Ramapo Supervisor Christopher St. Lawrence said on Monday that he'd been told by Israel Spitzer. St. Lawrence called the attack "horrific."

Sussman said Rottenberg's rights to practice his religion had been violated and that the possibility of federal conspiracy charges existed.

"Rather, this event culminated months of increasingly violent and coordinated religiously biased attacks on Mr. Rottenberg triggered by the victim's choice of synagogue and religious leader," Sussman said.

Elbaum said that if Ramapo police and the town had acted more aggressively last fall with New Square, his father-in-law might not be hospitalized.

"What we want first is everything should be all right with my father-in-law," he said. "We want to know who was behind this and for it to stop."

Rockland District Attorney Thomas Zugibe said a grand jury would hear evidence against Shaul Spitzer.

Zugibe and Ramapo Police Detective Lt. Mark Emma said that if there's a violation of federal law, they wouldn't hesitate to go to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

"Mr. Rottenberg's a working class guy," Emma said. "It's a shame what happened to this guy. We definitely want justice for this guy."

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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 17:27 לינק ישיר 

א פארגעניגן צו זעהן ווי די אהרונישע בלוט זויגער אריינגערעכנט אונזער חכם משהלע אידענטעפעצירן זיך מיט די סקווירא טעראר און זעהען די לעצטע רוצח'ישע געשעענישן אלץ א רעפערענדום פאר זייער אייגענע בלוטיגע ווילעזש הנהגה.
והבדלנו מן הטועים, האט שוין א פיהל גרעסערע באדייט, דאס ווייזט אז וואס די פארפוילטע מנהיגים זאלן נאר טון אריינגערעכנט רציחה ממש, וועלן אייביג זייערע נאכשלעפער מחפה זיין און שרייען קדוש קדוש קדוש,
זאל אפילו דער זשיגאן פון מונרו אריינשפאצירן מיט א שתי וערב וועט משהלע האבן א גאנץ זאק מיט תוריצים,



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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 17:31 לינק ישיר 
מיין מיינונג איז ער זאל יא דא בלייבן זאל טאקע יעדער זעהן א ארונישע קלאץ קאפ

boyskver כתב:
דער ציבור ווערט געבעטן אויך פראטעסטירן ביי די הנהלה
קעגין דעם בראטאלישן שרייבער!

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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 18:02 לינק ישיר 

ביטע נאר נוצן א איידעלע שפראך. ההנהלה


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נשלח ב-25/5/2011 18:31 לינק ישיר 

וועלעכע שפראך איז נישט געווען איידל?

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