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שאאא. סוד גדול. עפעס פאסירט מיט די קעמפס. שטיל זאל זיין !

א גרויסער פסק איז ארויסגעקומען די טעג, אבער ס'איז שטיל. עפעס איז עס איינגעהילט אין א גרויסע סוד.

ריכטער גילפעטריק האט אנגעפראסקעט די זאליס נפול תפול'ניקעס, און ארויסגעווארפען אלע זייערע "דיעדס" פון "אלע" קעמפס, און האט באזידעלט די זאליס אלס פראודסטערס און שווינדלער.

אזוי ווי מ'זעט דאך אז די זאליס האלטן דאס פאר א גרויסע סוד, כדי נישט אויפציוועקן די קליינווארג, ע"כ בקשתינו שטוחה אליכם, במטו מכם, נא לא להגיב, ונא לא לדבר מזה כלל. וד"ל.



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נשלח ב-3/10/2011 19:40 לינק ישיר 

?will the savlon visit next year all these camps



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נשלח ב-3/10/2011 20:08 לינק ישיר 

גראדע נישט, אבער עפעס א קורת רוח האט דער "סבלן" ווען אלע נכסים בלייבן אויפן אלטן נאמען פון קהל יט"ל, נו פארוואס פארגינט עטס איהם דאס אויך נישט? אזאלעכע חזרים זענט עטס?



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נשלח ב-3/10/2011 21:34 לינק ישיר 

צו דער רבי שליט''א וועט באזוכן די קעמפס דאס קומענדיגע יאר, קענען מיר נישט וויסן, פונקט ווי איר האט נישט געוויסט סוכות תש''ע אז דאס איז דאס לעצטע מאל וואס איר באניצט זיך מיט די סוכה גזולה און איר קענט קישן אייער סוכה אין בית המדרש החדש גוד ביי, קיינער ווייסט נישט וואס עס גייט זיין!, איין זאך איז זיכער, אז זומער תשע''ב וועלן די קעמפס נישט זיין אויף אייער נאמען, און אויב וואלט איר געווינען דעם יעצטיגן קארט וואלט איר דאך טרומפייטערט מיט א דידן נצח, על כן, אז איר האט למעשה מיאוס פארלוירן איז נאר רעכט אז די אהרונים זאלן שעפן נחת, באבוד רשעים רינה!!! 
 



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נשלח ב-3/10/2011 23:10 לינק ישיר 

דער נקידה איז:

אז זייט דער הייליגער ברך משה זי''ע איז נסתלק געווארן כ''ו ניסן תשס''ו, האט אנגעהויבן צו גיין פאר די זאליבאנצעס אלעס בארג אראפ, מיט אזא שנעלן טעמפא אז די זאליבאנצעס קענען זיך נישט דעם אטעם כאפן, זיי לויפן וואו משיגענע הינט צום אפגערונד,

1 אנגעהויבן פון דאס הצלת בית עלמין און קרית יואל, וואס דאס האט אריין געווארפן די זאליבאנישע העארכיע און א טיפן דעפרעסיע, וואו איר קענט זען און די שיינע עד'ס וואס אברהם בער שטעלט אריין אונעם טמא'נעם ארגאן דעם יוד, אז מען זאל קופן חלקה ביי די פאלאקען,

2 די קאקאש קעיק קרעשמע ווערט פארקנאקט מיט שלאס און ריגל, און אירע באזיצער גייען מיט בכיות און גלות אריין, וואו איר האט זיך געקענט איבערצייגן ווען דער משכיל בלומענפעלד האט ארויס געשיקט די ציושטע קווינס בויעס, צו שרייען וואו וואנזיגע און גייסטיש בארירטע פארשוינען און די שטאטישע גאסן,

3 ארויסגטראסקעט דעם ר זאליקא פון זיין סוכה, וואו בייזער פארזעעניש, און ער האט זיך נאך ביז היינט נישט געקענט צוזאמען קראצן, און זיך אויף שטעלן עפעס א דירת עראי, וואו איר קענט זען פשוט וואו ער מאכט זיך סוכה

4 דאס אז דער שופט האט צום טויזענסטען מאל געלאזט וויסען פאר די זאליבאנצעס, אז זיי זענען נישט נישט בע''ב אויף קיין איין איינציגסטען בילדיג וואס איז פארשריבען אויפן נאמען פון קהל יטב לב,
סאטמאר איז פינקט אזוי בע''ב אויף אלע בנינים וואו זיי, טראץ וואס די פערדישע זאליס האבן פראבירט פון יעדן אונטער טירל וואס איז נאר שייך לאו דווקא כשר'ע, צו פארארבייטן אז עפעס א שופט זאל קלאר זאגן אז זיי זענען בעה''ב, דאך האט זיי די אמעריקאנער יוסטיץ דעפארטמעננט, ארויס געשליידערט בבושת פנים,

זעט אויס אז דער הייליגער צדיק פארארבייט עפעס אויבן און הימל,

מען מיז זיך נעבאך טרייסטן, מיט לייקוואד, און צאנזער קרעפלעך, געזאלצענע מצות, אד'ג

א רחמניות אויף די זאליבאנצעס, וואו זיי זענען נעבאך אנגעקימען, זייער דעמאגאגישע גאווה, און זעלבס זיכערקייט, און זייער איינרעדישען, אז אז זיי זענען אומזיגבאר, ווייל זיי האבן דעם שד השידים משה בן פראדל שר''י האט געפלאצט און פלאצט ווייטער מיט א פעסקייט,

אזוי קיקט מען אויס ווען מען באהעפט זיך צו עמי הארצים,
און מען טרעט אויף די הייליגע תורה,



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נשלח ב-4/10/2011 01:28 לינק ישיר 

ביטע קען איינער ברענגען די קאורט פאפירען



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נשלח ב-12/10/2011 04:37 לינק ישיר 

שוין דא קאורט פאפירן? איך ווארט שוין מער ווי א וואך איינער זאל עס ברענגען.



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נשלח ב-12/10/2011 06:47 לינק ישיר 

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/PubArticleNY.jsp?id=1202518523236&Faulting_Faction_in_Satmar_Schism_Judge_Nullifies_Land_Transfer&slreturn=1



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נשלח ב-12/10/2011 16:17 לינק ישיר 

דער פסק


In the Matter of Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc v. Congregation Machneh Rav Tov

Justice James P. Gilpatric

Decided: September 27, 2011

ATTORNEYS

By: Richard M. Mahon, II, Esq., Tarshis, Catania, Liberth, Mahon & Milligram, PLCC, Newburgh, NY. and Kravet & Vogel, LLP, Attorneys for the true Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc., New York, NY.

Attorney for Petitioner by: Benjamin Ostrer, Esq. Ostrer & Hoovler, P.C. Chester, NY.

Attorneys for Congregation Machneh Rav Tov by: Marc Illish, Esq. The Law Office of B. Kogan PLLC, Brooklyn, NY.

Attorney General of the State of New York By: G. Nicholas Garin, Esq., Eric T. Schneiderman, Poughkeepsie, NY.

DECISION

The movant, alleging they are the valid or bona fide representatives for the named Petitioner, Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. (hereinafter "CYL"), have sought by Order to Show Cause, an order of this Court vacating this Court's prior order, dated December 2, 2010 order which approved, nunc pro tunc, the transfer of eight parcels of property located in Ulster County by another faction [emphasis added] of CYL and directing the County Clerk of Ulster County to cancel of record the deeds that were filed in 2006 and 2010 with respect to the subject properties, and directing the County Clerk of Ulster County to cancel of record the deeds that were filed in 2001 with respect to the subject properties. The movants also seek leave to intervene in this special proceeding and serve an answer to the petition. The individuals who have alleged to be the duly authorized representatives of the named petitioner, CYL and the grantee, Congregation Machneh Rav Tov (hereinafter "Rav Tov"), oppose the motion. The Attorney General's Office responded to the motion and is not opposed to this Court vacating its prior nunc pro tunc real property transfer order.

Religious Corporation Law §12(1) requires a religious corporation to obtain leave of the court pursuant to Not-for-Profit Corporation Law (hereinafter "N-PLC") §511 before selling any real property. The statutory notice provision of N-PCL §511(b) provides that upon filing a petition with the court, the Attorney General be provided a minimum of fifteen (15) days before a hearing on the application. Nonetheless, the more usual practice is for the petitions to be submitted to the Attorney General for review in advance of submitting them to the court. If after completing the review, the Attorney General has no objection to the transaction, the Attorney General provides written confirmation, usually by a means of a "no objection" endorsement on the proposed order, and will waive the statutory notice if the review was conducted prior to the submission of the petition to the court.

In this matter, this Court approved, by order dated December 2, 2010, the transfer of eight parcels of property located in Ulster County, nunc pro tunc, from a religious organization purporting to be Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. to Congregation Machneh Rav Tov as of the dates of prior conveyance, as set forth on unrecorded deeds listed in the petition and proposed order. The application was brought on a verified petition dated November 2, 2010 along with the affirmations of; Alex Feerst, Esq., dated November 2, 2010; Helen Laufer, dated May 19, 2010; Bessie Rosenberg, dated June 19, 2010; Serena Katz, dated May 19, 2010; and Wilmos Friedman, dated May 11, 2010. Upon review of the submissions at the time and based upon the Attorney General's "no objection" endorsement as outlined above, this Court found that the submissions met the procedural requirements in N-PCL §511 (a)(1)-(9) and signed the order transferring the aforesaid eight parcels of property to Rav Tov.

From the submissions in the current motion before the court, the affirmation of Berl Friedman alleges that he is the duly elected President of the true Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. ("Friedman Faction") and the petitioner in the original application represented another faction of the Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc., acting without authority to act for the true Congregation Yetev Lev D' Satmar, Inc. Mr. Friedman also asserts that there is a present and ongoing dispute that has existed since 2001 among certain members of the Congregation Machneh Ray Tov that is widely known and litigated by the New York State Courts, including the New York Court of Appeals. Mr. Friedman provided case law that establishes that the courts of this State have ruled that the issue as to which group controls Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. presents a nonjusticiable religious controversy, which cannot be decided by application of neutral principles of law (see, Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. v. Kahana, 9 NY3d 282 [2007]; Friedman v. CYL Cemetery, Inc., 80 AD3d 556 [2nd Dept 2011]; Frankel v. Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, 69 AD3d 788 [2nd Dept 2010]).

As further background to this motion, Mr. Friedman states that in 2001, a group led by Jacob Kahan ("Kahan Faction") disputed Mr. Friedman's election as President of the true Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. Nonetheless, Mr. Friedman asserts that the original petitioner in this matter, acted through persons representing the Kahan Faction when the petition was presented on November 17, 2010. Although petitioner's representatives alleged to be authorized to seek the court approval of the transfer of the subject eight parcels of property, Mr. Friedman alleges that said petitioner's representatives were not authorized to seek this Court's approval and that this information was never disclosed to the Court.

Moreover, Assistant Attorney General Garin affirms that he reviewed the petition and exhibits submitted in support of this Court's prior order and had more than one communication with the attorney representing the petitioner in the application. Mr. Garin states that neither the petition, the exhibits submitted therewith, nor the attorney representing the petitioner, alerted him to the fact that a crucial element of the requirements for approval, the approval of the board of directors of the Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc., was in dispute. Furthermore, Mr. Garin states that the petitioner did not notify him that the subject eight parcels of property were on a list of disputed properties provided by the two factions of the Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. to the Attorney General's New York City office. Mr. Garin further states that had this information been known to him he would have insisted that the Kahan Faction give notice to the Friedman Faction pursuant to N-PCL §511(b), and advised this Court that the property was the subject of an internal governance dispute that had been declared a nonjusticiable religious controversy by the Court of Appeals.

The petitioner, and the transferee, Congregation Machneh Rav Tov, do not dispute the internal conflict in the Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. However, they assert that Mr. Friedman has no authority to bring this application to vacate the Court's prior order. It is also asserted that Mr. Friedman is seeking to embroil this Court and the Attorney General into an intramural squabble within the Satmar community. The Court finds this argument to be without merit.

The initial application by the petitioner is the quintessence of non-disclosure, bordering on a fraudulent application before this Court. Based on what is an obvious schism in this Congregation that has commanded the attention of no less that New York State Court of Appeals (see Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. v. Kahana, 9 NY3d 282 [2007]), the petitioner literally chose to ignore the serious conflict within the Congregation and assumed authority to act on behalf of all [emphasis added] members, without any legally binding authority. The Court acted upon the initial application without having essential facts disclosed to it or the Attorney General' Office by the petitioner. Furthermore, the transferee, Congregation Machneh Rav Tov, knowingly participated in the application with the full knowledge of the essential facts being withheld. As such, this Court shall vacate its prior order and dismiss the petitioner's original application outright, without prejudice to submission of the same by duly authorized representatives of the petitioner's congregation, if and when such event occurs pursuant to the remittal by the Court of Appeals to all the members of said congregation. The remaining arguments have been considered and found to be without merit or moot.

Accordingly, it is hereby

ORDERED that this Court's December 2, 2010 order authorizing transfer of real property pursuant to Not For Profit Corporation Law §202 et seq is vacated; and it is further

ORDERED that the County Clerk of Ulster County cancel of record the deeds that were filed pursuant to this Court's December 2, 2010 order by Quitclaim Deeds dated March 16, 2001, recorded on April 9, 2001 that transfers without consideration of title from Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar, Inc. to Congregation Machneh Rav Tov and Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. and the subsequent 2006 Quitclaim Deeds dated August 17, 2006, recorded in August 24, 2006 that transfers without consideration from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov and Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. to Congregation Machneh Rav Tov of:

a. The property known as 45 Sportman Road, Town of Wawarsing, County of Ulster, Section 75.3 Block 1 Lots 34, 35 part of lot 36, which parcel was transferred from Isadore Osdoby and Julia Osdoby to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated May 26, 1960, and recorded on June 9, 1960 in Liber 1093, page 408, that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

b. The property known as 45 Sportsman Road, Town of Wawarsing, County of Ulster, Section 75.3 Block 1 Lots 34, 35 part of lot 36, which parcel was transferred from Isadore Hoffman to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated June 20, 1956, and recorded on June 25, 1956 in Liber 969, page 451,that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

c. The property known as 45 Sportman Road, Town of Wawarsing, County of Ulster, Section 75.3 Block 1 Lots 34, 35 part of lot 36, which parcel was transferred from Isadore Osdoby to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated September 23, 1985, and recorded on October 30, 1985 in Liber 1551, page 68, that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

d. The parcel of land located in the Town of Wawarsing, County of Ulster, without a street address assigned which parcel was transferred from Lillian Kornblau to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated June 3, 1971, and recorded on June 11, 1971 in Liber 1260, page 178, that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

e. The property known as 13 Martinfeld Road, Town of Wawarsing, County of Ulster, Section 81.2 Block 1 Lot 1, which parcel was transferred from Rose Wasserman to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated June 4, 1962, and recorded on June 8, 1962 in Liber 1123, page 1163, that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

f. The property known as 1152 Ulster Heights Road, Town of Wawarsing, County of Ulster, Section 74.3 Block 1 Lot 3.1, which parcel was transferred from Benjamin Tseng and Margaret Tseng to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated June 8, 1984, and recorded on June 13, 1984 in Liber 1506, page 36, that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

g. The property known as Loer Cherry Town Road, Town of Rochester, county of Ulster, Section 67 Block 2 Lot 42.1, which parcel was transferred form John B. Wilkis, Referee to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated May 18, 1961, and recorded on May 26, 1961 in Liber 1107, page 377,that approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to March 16, 2001, and approved and authorized nunc pro tunc to August 17, 2006; and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov;

ORDERED that the County Clerk of Ulster County cancel of record the deed pursuant to this Court's December 2, 2010 order that transferred without consideration, the real property located at 388 Cherry Town Road, Town of Rochester, County of Ulster, Section 67 Block 2 Lot 43.13 which parcel was transferred from Alex Tessler to Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc. by deed dated September 19, 1978, and recorded on January 15, 1979 in Liber 1404, page 662 to Congregation Machneh Rav Tov and, hereby divesting title from Congregation Machneh Rav Tov.

This shall constitute the decision of the Court. The original decision and all other papers are being delivered to the Supreme Court Clerk for transmission to the Ulster County Clerk for filing. The signing of this decision shall not constitute entry or filing under CPLR 2220. Counsel is not relieved from the applicable provisions of that rule regarding notice of entry.

SO ORDERED.

James P. Gilpatric

 





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נשלח ב-12/10/2011 16:59 לינק ישיר 

ארטיקל אין ניו יארק לאו זשורנאל


Faulting Faction in Satmar 'Schism,' Judge Nullifies Land Transfer
Andrew Keshner
New York Law Journal
October 12, 2011
A judge who says he was blindsided by a faction in a religious "schism" has nullified the conveyance of about 325 acres of campground in upstate Ulster County.
Supreme Court Justice James P. Gilpatric (See Profile) complained that he was not told before approving the transaction that it had been sought by one of two feuding factions within one congregation of the Satmar community of Hasidic Jews without the agreement of the other faction.
The original application was "the quintessence of non-disclosure, bordering on a fraudulent application before this court," Justice Gilpatric wrote in Matter of the Application of Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar Inc., 5848-2010
Referring to the 2007 Court of Appeals decision in Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar v. Kahana, 9 NY3d 282, Justice Gilpatric noted, "Based on what is an obvious schism in this Congregation that has commanded the attention of no less than New York State Court of Appeals, the petitioner literally chose to ignore the serious conflict within the Congregation and assumed authority to act on behalf of all members, without any legally binding authority."
The property at issue contains a summer camp open to Satmar Hasidic children of all factions that is run by Congregation Machneh Rav Tov but had been in the name of Brooklyn-based Congregation Yetev Lev D'Satmar.
In December 2010, Justice Gilpatric approved an application by a group purporting to represent Congregation Yetev Lev for transfer of the property nunc pro tunc to Rav Tov.
But after the transfer, Berl Friedman, president of the "true" Yetev Lev, notified the court that the conveyors represented a rival faction within the congregation led by Jacob Kahan and had been acting without the entire group's authority. He asked the judge to nullify his earlier decision.
Attorneys for Rav Tov did not dispute the existence of an internal conflict at Yetev Lev. However, they contended that Mr. Friedman was "seeking to embroil this Court and the Attorney General into an intramural squabble within the Satmar Community," like the Court of Appeals had avoided in its 2007 ruling.
The state's Religious Corporation Law requires court approval of any sale of religious property. Here, the Attorney General's Office did not object to conveyance, but Assistant Attorney General G. Nicholas Garin said in court papers that he was never told the ownership of the land was in dispute. Had he known, he would have advised the court to notify both factions of the proposed conveyance. And he said he had no objection to unraveling the court's action.
Donald J. Kravet of Kravet & Vogel was co-counsel to the "true" Yetev Lev. Calling the decision "straightforward," he said in an interview that "the judge, when made aware what actually occurred, was disturbed and unwound the transactions as was appropriate."
Richard M. Mahon II, of Tarshis, Catania, Liberth, Mahon & Milligram in Newburgh also represented Yetev Lev.
Benjamin Ostrer of Ostrer & Hoovler in Chester represented the Kahan faction that originally sought the conveyance, although he did not appear in that action.
Mr. Ostrer said that Rav Tov, when seeking to create a camp about 50 years ago, lacked sufficient assets to secure title. So it enlisted Congregation Yetev Lev, which put its name on the title but was only "the nominal owner."
He said he was disappointed by the ruling.
"We thought at worst the court should not have reached the issue of annulling the deed. …On the merits, the transfer was just," Mr. Ostrer said. He noted that Rav Tov has been the group running and maintaining the camp over the years. "But the judge appears to be offended by some of the machinations and it's certainly understandable," he said.
Marc Illish of the Law Office of B. Kogan in Brooklyn represented Rav Tov. He said that his client, as the "equitable owner" of the property, would appeal the decision and initiate a proceeding under Article 15 of the Real Property Actions and Proceedings Law for the determination of title.
In a statement, Mr. Illish insisted that notifying all factions of Yetev Lev was not a prerequisite to the transfer.
"In any event, the failure to give the notice pales by comparison to the fact that only Rav Tov invested the money and sweat into the camp sites for over 50 years, which was never disputed by any faction," he said. "Accordingly, the granting of the [original] petition was a just result."

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נשלח ב-16/10/2011 23:46 לינק ישיר 

1 קיין איין צד האט נישט קיין בעלות אדער נאר צד מהר"יי ?
2 צו האט מען עס אפילעט ? 
3 מיט וואס איז עס אנדערש פונעם בית החיים אז די ריכטער האט זיך יא געוואלט מישען אין בעלות  חלק ?



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נשלח ב-17/10/2011 00:10 לינק ישיר 

מאירשלום כתב:
1 קיין איין צד האט נישט קיין בעלות אדער נאר צד מהר"יי ?

"בעלות" איז נישט געווען קיין מדובר דא, די שאלה איז בלויז געווען צו צד מהרז"ל האט געמעגט טוישן די דיד אן די הסכמה פון צד מהר"א, וואס אויף דעם האט דער ריכטער געפסקנט אז, ניין

2 צו האט מען עס אפילעט ?

דערווייל נישט, זייער מעגליך אז זיי וועלן

3 מיט וואס איז עס אנדערש פונעם בית החיים אז די ריכטער האט זיך יא געוואלט מישען אין בעלות  חלק ?

ביים בית החיים האט זיך דער ריכטער קיינמאל געמישט, ער האט אלעס געשיקט צו דין תורה אויפן פארלאנג פונעם נתבע אזוי ווי אין בארא פארק.




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נשלח ב-17/10/2011 18:52 לינק ישיר 

קמץ בארד
א גרויסען יישר כוח.



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נשלח ב-18/10/2011 05:45 לינק ישיר 

בארא פארק איז נישט געווען קיין דיעדס. ביטע ענטפער קלאר פארוואס ביי די ביה''ח האט ער נישט געקענט אריינרעדן אין ביי די קעמפס יא



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נשלח ב-18/10/2011 17:05 לינק ישיר 

זייער קלאר: נישט ביי די ביה"ח און נישט ביי די קעמפס, האט דער דשאדש אריינגערעט אין בעלות חלק,



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נשלח ב-18/10/2011 17:07 לינק ישיר 

http://religionclause.blogspot.com/2011/10/nondisclosure-of-factional-fighting.html



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